Subway Lava Tube / Burney Falls / Calatrava Bridge

[grog]

Chicoans,

Quagga, Quagga SO and I are going on another adventure this weekend. This is the order of events. Burney Falls is spectacular, so you all should come.

Subway Lava Tube --
http://www.shastacascade.org/forest/lassen/subway.htm
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/lassen/recreation/hatcreek/subway.shtml
(may a quick hike/poke around hat creek in general, its purty.)


Burney Falls -- Burney + a hike in the area
http://www.waterfallswest.com/ca_burney.html

Calatrava Bridge -- Redding
http://www.turtlebay.org/sundial/sundial.shtml

Date and Time is flexible yet, depending if anyone else wants to come. I have plenty of seating.

[jenzie]

Burney Falls -- Burney + a hike in the area
http://www.waterfallswest.com/ca_burney.html

WOW!!! I neeeeed to go there next time I'm in town! :D

Your whole outing looks like so much fun!

[bird]

Whoa! That lava tube looks so neat! :o

[seitanicvegan]

Oh, oh, oh! If it can please, please, please be on Saturday, I'm all over that. Well, probably not ALL over as I'll be pretty beat from work by Friday. But I so need to get away from concrete. :kiss: :thumbsup:

If Saturday doesn't work for everybody else, I totally understand. :bawling:

[walrus]

Saturday for me too, please! I'm dying to go! What about food, are we bringing lunches again? Will I need any money, because I'm broke!

[grog]

bkatzman said saturday is 75% good for him too.

[grog]

I'm sure we should Bring lunch. There was some talk of Thai/Dinner in Redding, but we don't know any places in Redding.

Oh yeah, Seitanic, do you know any options in redding?

Otherwise, no money should be required.

[grog]

BTW, this looks like a full day trip, 9-6 or so.

[grog]

Quagga, Quagga SO, seitanicvegan, walrusd1978,bkatzman,me = 6

I have room for one more, with a seatbelt anyway.

[grog]

Emiloid, we're looking at you....

[walrus]

There is a possibility I might be bringing a guest. I probably won't find out until later on tonight.

[grog]

We can have them armwrestle for it.

The hawaii dude?

[grog]

oh, we can obviously take another auto if mine fills up.

I can tow Quagga's Prius, that would suit my sense of irony very well.

[Dandelion]

/me <--- green with ENVY

[seitanicvegan]

I'm sure we should Bring lunch. There was some talk of Thai/Dinner in Redding, but we don't know any places in Redding.

Oh yeah, Seitanic, do you know any options in redding?

Otherwise, no money should be required.

Actually, there's this really cool Mexican place in Redding I've been to once. I'll get back to you on where it is.

I don't know any Thai/dinner places in Redding, but I can ask at work tomorrow. I'll get back to you on that also.

[Emiloid]

Hey, count me in! We can tie walrusd1978's pal to the roof. Or take two cars. Maybe I can scrounge up another person or two, just to make two cars more worthwhile.

[walrus]

We can have them armwrestle for it.

The hawaii dude?
Nope, 'nother dude.

[seitanicvegan]

The Mexican place in Redding: Burrito Bandito is off of I-5 on the south end of Redding (on the way back to Chico). It's not right on the highway, but it's close and easy to find. It's open until 8:30pm on Saturday. I had an outstanding vegan burrito there.

[grog]

I could probably fit a smallish person in between seats on the floor, but they might die (easier) if we crashed.

Ok, we'll have to see the final count and work it out.

[quagga]

Sure, I am willing to drive and can take two people (SO and I will ride together). I'll even bring walkie talkies so we can talk to each other from car to car. I think the amount of gas that Grog's car will use would be enough for me to get all the way to Los Angeles and back.

It should be a lovely outing. Don't forget to bring flashlights for the subway tunnel. It gets very dark in there, I understand.

What's the body count up to?

oh, we can obviously take another auto if mine fills up.

I can tow Quagga's Prius, that would suit my sense of irony very well.

[Emiloid]

I could probably fit a smallish person in between seats on the floor, but they might die (easier) if we crashed.Does that mean everyone else would die uneasily? :confused:

[grog]

Does that mean everyone else would die uneasily? :confused:

It's a question of seatbelts really.

[walrus]

So my friend really wants to go, but he won't find out if he's working or not until tomorrow or Friday. So I won't know if he's going or not until the last minute. Sorry to keep everyone on their toes.

[grog]

well.....sans you friend and with Emiloid it makes for one full grog mobile.

I think we have to make a contingency plan then, since I don't think we can wait until Friday evening.

How about...

Meet at my place at 9, goto CNF to get lunch foods, or bring your own.

If we have too many people, take Quagga's ride too, if not, take mine.

If I deem your friend annoying you two can ride with Quagga ;)

Outside of that...what's the plan?

Cave, creek, waterfall, bridge, places then hit the burritto bandit on the way back (or byo food)

Bring hiking clothes, water, flashlights, etc.

[bird]

Heh. Grog-mobile. :p

[quagga]

I think I might have been too hasty about the mileage remark--say my car gets ~43 mpg but only holds four people. And the grog-mobile gets ~15 mpg but holds seven people -- somebody do the math for me. Is the prius still more efficient? What happens if I only have two people in my car? I need some kind of person per mile per gallon measurement...this sounds like a job for Spasticastic.

Anyway, we'll see what happens when we convene at Grog's come Saturday. I am beat from traveling and working this week and am really looking forward to this trip.

I think we ought to shuffle people around though -- so we can all share each other's company.

Sure, I am willing to drive and can take two people (SO and I will ride together). I'll even bring walkie talkies so we can talk to each other from car to car. I think the amount of gas that Grog's car will use would be enough for me to get all the way to Los Angeles and back.

It should be a lovely outing. Don't forget to bring flashlights for the subway tunnel. It gets very dark in there, I understand.

What's the body count up to?

[mamaquilla]

ah man, this sounds awsome, hope you guys have a blast :happy:

[Emiloid]

I think I might have been too hasty about the mileage remark--say my car gets ~43 mpg but only holds four people. And the grog-mobile gets ~15 mpg but holds seven people -- somebody do the math for me. Is the prius still more efficient? What happens if I only have two people in my car? I need some kind of person per mile per gallon measurement...this sounds like a job for Spasticastic.
If your cars are full, the Prius is still more efficient. The SUV doen't hold twice as many people as the Prius, and the Prius gets almost three times the milage as the grog-mobile (with the estimates above). Of course, if the cars aren't both full, it doesn't really matter unless one car's milage increases less with each person added: it's still two cars going the same distance getting an average of 29 miles per gallon.

Of course, spasticastic could probably describe it better... with detailed charts and equations and such.

Also, I might be wrong. :blank:

[spasticastic]

:)

[spasticastic]

Also, a full Prius may not still get 43 mpg.

You can put at least seven people in a Prius, come on people! 4 in the back, 3 up front. Africa style!

Different driving styles affect mileage.

Extreme terrain affects mileage.

Wind, etc.

Whatever!! A big point of the above chart is that people mileage increases dramatically by carpooling. Even the grogmobile can get 100 mpg!

[quagga]

Thank you, Spasticastic -- excellent analysis! That's why I was so disappointed when California caved in and opened the carpool lanes to hybrid vehicles (not all, only the the ones with high mpg).

San Francisco has a a 3-person per car regulation for carpool lanes, so it makes me sick to think of a hybrid with just one person in it cruising along.

Anyway, I guess we should try and encourage a few more folks to go on this trip so we can fill up my car, too!

[grog]

Have I mentioned yet that I'm not fond of strangers? :blank:

[quagga]

I thought we could just pick up some hitchhikers along the way and try and convert them to veganism...

[walrus]

Have I mentioned yet that I'm not fond of strangers? :blank:
What are you saying? Shall I not bring my friend?

[grog]

What are you saying? Shall I not bring my friend?

As long as he's cool. I more meant 4 or 5 strangers would just make me shy. I can handle one, and I'm sure he's not coming to talk to me anyway.

[walrus]

As long as he's cool. I more meant 4 or 5 strangers would just make me shy. I can handle one, and I'm sure he's not coming to talk to me anyway.
You bet your ass he's coming to talk to you. I mentioned that grog was going to be there and he said, "Screw you, walrus, I'm going for the grog!" Ferserious! He's cool. No worries. He's vegetarian too. Wants to be vegan. So here's our chance.

[spasticastic]

So now I can mention my favorite gas saving technique of all. The technique that puts all others to shame. The technique that makes even grog's Hummer get water-car like mileage. A miracle technique that makes even the smokiest car a gasoline free clean-machine. What can do this, you ask? The best gas saving technique of all, don't go on the trip! Check out these stats, and look at the mileage grog is getting now!!!

[grog]

Hey, I work from home. Its not like I'm driving up and down the western seaboard every other week like some truckers I know. ;)

[quagga]

I'm shy around strangers, too. And groups of friends of friends that I don't know--i.e., a party. It's amazing that I feel comfortable with our group of Chico Vegans--I think it's a testament to what a nice and interesting bunch of folks you all are that I can actually carry on a conversation with you. :)

We'll just see who shows up and a good time will be had by all.

Have I mentioned yet that I'm not fond of strangers? :blank:

[walrus]

I'm shy around strangers, too. And groups friends of friends that I don't know--i.e., a party. It's amazing that I feel comfortable with our group of Chico Vegans--I think it's a testament to what a nice and interesting bunch of folks you all are that I can actually carry on a conversation with you. :)

We'll just see who shows up and a good time will be had by all.
Ditto.

[Emiloid]

Hey guys, my friend Hildi (who came to the last gathering) might be joining us. She has a Prius, so we might be able to take two hybrids. What's our count up to now? 8-9?

walrusd1978
walrus' pal (?)
Emiloid
Hildi
grog
quagga
mr quagga
bkatzman (?)
seitanicvegan

[seitanicvegan]

I have a couple of other options for dinner in Redding: a Laotian place and a Thai place. I will find out where these places are located and confirm hours and vegan food availability, but I'm just too dang tired to do much else tonight. I'll update tomorrow. But at least we'll have some choices for dinner grub.

[bkatzman]

Hey boys and girls,

I am 90% sure that I am going. Are any special things I need to bring? GPS? Magic Bake Oven? I will post after work, if I can go or not..

laters,
-B

[spasticastic]

Hey, I work from home. Its not like I'm driving up and down the western seaboard every other week like some truckers I know. ;)
Um, Um... :uhoh: Who are these truckers you're referring to?

Yeah, I've been using my car too much lately and, trust me, I can see it on every bank statement. But you just wait, mister! Once I no longer have to commute to life, I'll be getting that infinity miles per gallon every day of the year! :p

PS: I wasn't trying to say that you shouldn't go on the trip. I just like to mention it as the ultimate way to increase your gas mileage, to not go anywhere. Just clarifying!

[quagga]

The usuals - sunscreen, lunch, water, flashlight

Optional - mosquito repellent, binoculars, camera, swimsuit & towel (we might discover a nice swimming hole), daypack to carry it all in (unless you have a friend who will schlepp it for you)


Hey boys and girls,

I am 90% sure that I am going. Are any special things I need to bring? GPS? Magic Bake Oven? I will post after work, if I can go or not..

laters,
-B

[walrus]

My friend won't be joining us after all. Do we still need the second car?

[quagga]

I think that we will have to wait till tomorrow morning to find out the answer.

My friend won't be joining us after all. Do we still need the second car?

[grog]

Who's bringing the beer and weed?

Oh wait, we're not in college anymore Dorothy. :silly:

[grog]

Its 45 Degrees F in the cave. Bring a jacket.

[walrus]

Its 45 Degrees F in the cave. Bring a jacket.
What? Serious? Are you guys seriously bringing your jackets?

[grog]

Yes I'm serious, I'm yahoo serious in fact.

[seitanicvegan]

Lao Kitchen: This place is supposed to have outstanding food, but the ambiance is not ultra deluxe. It's the kind of place that the locals go for dinner. (That's what my boss said, anyway.) It is vegetarian friendly, but I couldn't confirm whether or not it's vegan friendly.

Thai Bistro: not an option. The receptionist was downright rude when I asked about vegan options.

At least there's Burrito Bandito.

I printed out maps for Burrito Bandito and Lao Kitchen. I'll bring them with me. See everyone tomorrow! :cool: :thumbsup:

[walrus]

Yes I'm serious, I'm yahoo serious in fact.
Yes, but are you ferserious? Well, are you?!

[quagga]

I'm bringing a jacket/sweatshirt thing and I always wear sturdy shoes. :) I'm wearing shorts, though. No pants for me--we're not going to be particularly high in elevation, so I think it's going to be hot.

As for food afterwards -- we can always bail on Redding food and eat in Chico.

From the Lava Tubes website:
Temperature - Temperature inside the cave remains a cool 46 degrees Fahrenheit year around. Be sure to take a jacket with you.

Safety - Rough floor, watch your step, low ceiling, sturdy shoes advised!


What? Serious? Are you guys seriously bringing your jackets?

[walrus]

If I ride with grog, I'm bringing some music. Any requests? Never mind. I'll bring what I got, thankyouverymuch. :p

[bkatzman]

Sorry dudes. I am going to have sit this one out. Too much to do.. Going to Portland next week has moved everything a week forward. Have fun and be careful.
-B

[grog]

Now that the hanging chads are all mostly in, we are a one vehicle crew, the original crew, the too live crew.

walrusd1978
Emiloid
Hildi ?
grog
quagga
mr quagga
seitanicvegan

[walrus]

Now that the hanging chads are all mostly in, we are a one vehicle crew, the original crew, the too live crew.

walrusd1978
Emiloid
Hildi ?
grog
quagga
mr quagga
seitanicvegan
Wait. Did I mention my invisible friend? He's coming too. He requires a seatbelt and pie. The pie must be visible.

[grog]

Wait. Did I mention my invisible friend? He's coming too. He requires a seatbelt and pie. The pie must be visible.

Invisible dudes get the cargo area. Invisible chicks might get some cookies.

[bird]

the too live crewOMG, lol! :laugh:

[walrus]

Who am I meeting and where and at what godforsaken time am I meeting them?

[grog]

is.this.better.

well.....sans you friend and with Emiloid it makes for one full grog mobile.

I think we have to make a contingency plan then, since I don't think we can wait until Friday evening.

How about...

Meet at my place at 9, goto CNF to get lunch foods, or bring your own.

If we have too many people, take Quagga's ride too, if not, take mine.

If I deem your friend annoying you two can ride with Quagga ;)

Outside of that...what's the plan?

Cave, creek, waterfall, bridge, places then hit the burritto bandit on the way back (or byo food)

Bring hiking clothes, water, flashlights, etc.

[walrus]

I remember the time, I just didn't know if it had changed or not. Sucka.

[grog]

:yawn:

The things I do for you guys. :silly:

[VeganArtist]

I want to live in California. :mad:

[mamaquilla]

me too :laugh:

[bird]

That's ok, mamaquilla - you've got the Mighty-O advantage. :cool:

[Emiloid]

OK, we did it and we even returned to tell the tale! This despite grog's repeated demonstration of "the shark": swerving smoothly back and forth on the (empty) highway while saying "ba-dump... ba-dump..." etc. Very silly! And very nauseating. :blank:

We were a group of six vegans: seitanicvegan, grog, walrusd1978, Emiloid, quagga, and "mr. quagga". (None of the "maybes" could make it.) We had an interesting day. We drove up a road that would have been a semi-shortcut, and a nice drive... but then we had to turn around because of a wildfire. Pshaw! Naturally, we could have made it! Vegans are so constitutionally hearty, what would a little fire do? Omnis just don't understand. Anyway, since we had to turn around, that added about 1.5 hours to our drive, which would have been a drag, but the company was great, so the time just flew by.

As planned, we traveled to a cool volcanic cave, a really beautiful waterfall, and one of the most interesting bridges I've ever seen. We also made a few unplanned stops, including one at a "vista point" that at first seemed to lack any kind of vista. In the evening we searched for a burrito joint that was invisible or something. It must have been, 'cause we never found it. Luckily, most of us were still full from lunch and from the handfulls of blackberries we chowed on near a lake... a lake with invisible bald eagles and semi-visible ospreys. (I was still mostly full, but there's always room for burritos!)

In short, everywhere we went was interesting and beautiful, and we really had a blast! Photo essay coming up, right grog (and other camera-toters)??

[seitanicvegan]

This was a wonderful trip, the places were beautiful, and I had a blast, but the best part about it was the company.

Thanks to grog for driving and being our fearless leader, to Emiloid for hanging out when my bum knee kicked in, to walrus1978, quagga and Mr. quagga for constantly making me laugh.

I didn't say this during our adventure, but it was my belated birthday celebration. (My birthday was Friday.) It was absolutely one of the best birthday celebrations I've ever had. Way, way cool. :D

[quagga]

Mr. Quagga and I had a great time yesterday! Aside from the great natural sights (and some unnatural ones), one of my cherished vegan moments was when someone said (after we decided the burrito place was invisible), "Let's go to Applebee's," and everyone in the car started cracking up. *sigh* With any other group of friends, that suggestion would have been taken seriously...

My one regret...That I didn't accompany Grog on his 1.5 mile excursion to the headwaters of the falls. He was gone before I knew it! Perhaps next time...

[walrus]

It was indeed most awesome. My favorite part was the waterfall. Well, the cave adventure was cool too, especially when we took that little detour and went to the back where no one is allowed to go. The "Rodents of Unusal Size" were cool too. I started out pretty tired but after a nap in the car and some hiking I was, well, still tired; but it was a good tired. Chico Vegans are so :cool:. Just so you guys know, my invisible friend fell off the cargo bed when we turned around to avoid the fire. I would've said something, but y'all wouldn't have been able to find him anyway. Oh well. Grog, let's see some pictures!

[mamaquilla]

Thanks Cymraegrrl, thats true ;)

Sounds like it was indeed a blast and exciting (wildfires...oh my...)

pictures !!!!!!!!!!!!! pleaseeeeeeee!!!!!!! :D

[jenzie]

So happy to hear you all had such a fun trip! :happy:

And hey, I ended up going to a cool lava cave yesterday too! I'll post some pics, and can't wait to see the ones you guys took! :D

[grog]

I'll postum pictures tomorrow or something, didn't feel like dealing with that today.

But there are some nice pics :cool:

[bird]

My birthday was Friday.It was? :o Happy belated birthday, seitanicvegan! :kiss:

[bird]

As planned, we traveled to a cool volcanic cave, a really beautiful waterfall, and one of the most interesting bridges I've ever seen.What was so interesting about the bridge? :)

[bird]

I ended up going to a cool lava cave yesterday too!Really? :o Wow! :silly:

[Emiloid]

What was so interesting about the bridge? :)
You'll see... you'll see....

Oh, OK! Here's a link to some nice photos (http://sandyhershelman.com/photo5.htm) of the bridge.

And one I stole from the site:

[quagga]

What makes the Calatrava Bridge so beautiful and graceful is that it has only one vertical rise -- the "sundial" tower bears the entire weight of the bridge. Even though the bridge touches both banks of the Sacramento River, the weight of the span is supported by the cables that connect to the vertical portion of the bridge. The cables are interesting too -- although they look identical, in fact they vary in thickness depending on the weight that they have to bear.

It truly does function as a sundial, also. There are markers around the perimeter that show 10 am, 11 am noon, and so on. Very cool!

[bird]

Wow! That's beautiful! It's a work of public art. Thanks for the thorough explanation, quagga. :kiss:

[bluedawg]

calatrava designed our art museum (and the bridge that leads to it). it's beautiful. he does neat work.

cymraegrrl (or anyone! hee), if you want to see pics of that, here's a link to the main building site (http://www.mam.org/thebuilding/index.htm) and you can navigate around once you're there.

[bird]

Neat! I can see the aesthetic similarities between the two. Thanks for the link, bluedawg! :)

[quagga]

Bluedawg -- I would love to see that sunscreen move and open. There is a lot to be said for making manmade structures resemble nature--they become gentle and powerful at the same time. I think forms like this can also shape our perceptions and actions -- if we lived in rounded curved structures (like hobbits), would it change the way we think and behave? I think it's possible.

You can see how the principles of the MAM sunscreen were applied to the Sundial bridge. In Redding, the base of the bridge can be rented out for wedding receptions/fundraiser galas, etc. In fact, when we were there someone was hosting a fancy to-do. The base of the tower is some 150 feet or so below the bridge. The party was public and private at the same time.

[bird]

Bluedawg -- I would love to see that sunscreen move and open. There is a lot to be said for making manmade structures resemble nature--they become gentle and powerful at the same time. I think forms like this can also shape our perceptions and actions -- if we lived in rounded curved structures (like hobbits), would it change the way we think and behave? I think it's possible.

You can see how the principles of the MAM sunscreen were applied to the Sundial bridge. In Redding, the base of the bridge can be rented out for wedding receptions/fundraiser galas, etc. In fact, when we were there someone was hosting a fancy to-do. The base of the tower is some 150 feet or so below the bridge. The party was public and private at the same time.You're so thoughtful, quagga. I love your ideas and analysis of both structures. :daisy:

bluedawg, it must be lovely having that museum right in your city. :)

[bluedawg]

i'm glad you guys liked the links!

it's wonderful having this structure here. they built the addition to the MAM shortly after i moved back home, and it was a really big deal. i actually live very close to lake michigan (several blocks away), and so anytime i ever go downtown or take the freeway anywhere, i pass the museum. i get to see it a whole lot. it's purty. :)

it looks cool when it's open and when it's closed, and there's also a great view of it if you drive down wisconsin ave. downtown (basically "main street") right toward it (i.e., toward the lake). there's an orange sunburst sculpture at the end of wisconsin ave., on a hill, and then when the brise soleil is open, they line up perfectly. i'll try to find a pic.
*****
i'm having a tough time finding a pic, but here's an example of some of the "turmoil" in town about it. calatrava evidently designed it so that they would line up and could be viewed this way, but some people think the orange sunburst is ugly, and they think it "blocks" the MAM.
Q: Jim of Milwaukee - What can be done to have the orange sunburst that blocks the view of the magnificant Calatrava from Wisconsin Avenue moved to a new location? Destroyed, melted and/or sold would be my preference but I guess some people mistakenly think it is creative - so I can live with just moving it - maybe to the Summerfest grounds?

A: Whitney Gould - Sorry, Jim, but while I know lots of people agree with you, I'm for leaving Mark di Suvero's sunburst, "The Calling," right where it is. I think its muscular exuberance is a nice counterpoint to Calatrava's lyrical brise soleil, and the pairing of the two of them reflects the complexity and contradictions of urban life. The museum, which owns the sculpture, has considered moving it, but only with the artist's permission, and as far as I know he hasn't consented.

[bluedawg]

eh. i don't like these, because they're all too close or off-center or whatever, but you'll get the drift.

as you're driving down wisconsin ave., the sunburst actually looks a lot smaller and the center lines of each piece line up really nicely. these are taken from too close, so the sunburst looks huge.

[grog]

sunburst is ugly. Looks like orange iron girders in a crossed pattern, woopty doo.

[bluedawg]

grog, a whooooole bunch of milwaukee agrees with you completely.

i actually like it better now that it has a juxtaposition-type backdrop.

[bird]

sunburst is ugly. Looks like orange iron girders in a crossed patternI agree completely; that's exactly my impression! I would never have pegged it as a sunburst if you hadn't told me. It looks like a 3D asterisk, if you ask me.

[seitanicvegan]

It's leftover construction materials made to look like they came straight out of The Jetsons. I think it was meant to be art.

[grog]

Here they come
Here come the pictures
I heard it from -
a confidant -
Who heard it form a confidant
They're definitely on their way
I hope dandy doesn't get mad
I'm eating up, all his bandwidth -
no way -

[grog]

The subway cave was formed from an old lava flow.

[grog]

You can see the rubble from the collapsed magma.

[grog]

c'mon say it with me...mothy mothy mothy mothy mothy mothy

[grog]

The Roof, The Roof, The Roof was on fire (once)

[grog]

Or a lava cow-pie as Walrusd1978 put it

[grog]

Just needs furniture

[grog]

Ancient Air Force Motto: Roots From Above!

[grog]

We took a detour and checked out the beautiful Pit River, which is very cold.

edited by Emioid to add: I could be wrong, but isn't this Hat Creek?

[grog]

Caught in the act, at Burney Falls lunch area

[grog]

And some hippies

[grog]

Awesome

[grog]

Of Quagga's

[grog]

I guess a cloud passed over

[grog]

They're lumberjacks and its ok...

[grog]

I had to scrabble down the cliff off trail to get this shot.

[grog]

This same pair got lost in the cave that didn't have any branches in it.

[grog]

Everyone ditched me so I went to find the headwaters by myself. The falls are fed entirely by springs and groundwater/pressure.

[grog]

Or is it Sweaty/Unshaven/Tired, I forget the lyrics

[grog]

Off the side of 299 on the way down the mountain. Mr. Quagga was quite excited about this fixer-upper.

[grog]

Bridge 1

[grog]

Bridge 2

[grog]

fin

[bluedawg]

awesome pictures, as usual, grog!! thanks for posting them. :silly: and such adorable vegans! looks like you guys had a great time.

[jenzie]

Great pictures! :D

[bird]

The Roof, The Roof, The Roof was on fire (once):laugh:

[bird]

Thanks for the great pictures, grog! That bridge came out really beautifully. Hilarious captions, as usual, too. :p

Walrus (is that you in the land mines shirt?), I like your sunglasses!

[Dandelion]

I hope dandy doesn't get mad
I'm eating up, all his bandwidth -

great pics, thanks!
bandwidth shmandwidth.

[mamaquilla]

Lovely pictures ! :)

[Emiloid]

Here they come
Here come the pictures
I heard it from -
a confidant -
Who heard it form a confidant
They're definitely on their way
I hope dandy doesn't get mad
I'm eating up, all his bandwidth -
no way -

Bastard!


Heh heh heh.

[walrus]

Thanks for the great pictures, grog! That bridge came out really beautifully. Hilarious captions, as usual, too. :p

Walrus (is that you in the land mines shirt?), I like your sunglasses!
That is I! Cool shirt, eh? You can thank Sir Paul McCartney for that one. Hey, I like my sunglass too! I got 'em at Mervyn's a year ago for $20. :cool:

[spidermonkey]

Aww, you guys all look so cute!!! :daisy: Thanks for all the awesome pictures grog!

[bird]

I just realized that Calatrava is the architect who is designing the new PATH train station at Ground Zero. Here are some sketches of what it's supposed to look like, subject to change:

1. Aerial view, from downtown

2. Night view

3. View from the south

4. Interior, with roof closed

5. Interior, with roof open

[bird]

Great article on Calatrava:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18554

[quagga]

Hmm. I need to organize this outing for Chico Vegan Meetup.... It's been four years...time to go back.

[Emiloid]

Good times!